hey, you guys rule. Already posted a link in the {UNK} forums --> http://sayunkle.com/CommunityTalkV3/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=3555

hopefully some of our UT3 folks will show this time. At this point, I may be iffy due to lots of real-world items going on in the next month, but we'll see.

ROCK ON !!

I see a link is up ^^^ there for WAR-FULL WORM GARDEN.. which is beta 1, I will have beta 2 ready by the party

Can everybody see this thread okay? Sanch3z?

I see it now but it wasnt there earlier... and no I havent taken any hallucinogenic drugs today

I will have updated versions of Full Worm Garden and Hostile ONS posted by Monday 3/23 night

I need links to the maps we will be playing for Epic forums. If they are the same links as above please specify

Do I put the vent info up?

Yeah u should definetly add our vent info. I updated the original post with the new map list and Harmerty will have a map pack available once we figure out if we have all the latest versions of these maps

I cannot access the link for Royal Flush or Death Dome...

I think we should leave Dawn and too dark park out, they have been played enough.

I fixed those links. Thanks for the heads up

Noooooo they are great maps!

I strongly agree with Sanch3z that only new maps should be in there. Otherwise we'll end up with another oversized map pack. It helps people to give some repetition on new maps so they get a chance to feel comfortable. Otherwise it is overwhelming. Just look how much play the 3 new maps in the map pack are getting.

I vote for cutting out the following maps because they were in the last map party:

Iridi
ArchCliffs
Xcavated
TooDark
Dawn
RoyalFlush
DeathDome
MasterBath
Maelstrom

Yes they are all fun maps but I think we should just give the new maps more play.

I am cool with the removal of the maps pacer mentioned except Iridi and Maelstrom:

Iridi: is going to be BigDogs MSUC phase 3 entry. He is making maps for us, the custom map community and he doesnt even really play UT3. I'd like to get him as much playtesting/feedback as possible since we all know it isnt going to come from the rest of the WAR community.

Maelstrom: So's just made this map final, lets really give it some play time. Plus I think we should show support for other teams projects. I didnt get a chance to play it much at last party.

We arent doing a map pack this time around. I am just posting links to each map at Epic.

I removed the link above to Full Worm Garden since I will have a new version ready tomorrow with: Pacers orb spawners at primes, another node link setup.

Pacer, would you be able to maybe take a look at the hellbender twin beam charge indicator? From what I gather from it is they changed something with the HUD. The SPMA now has a charge indicator and I believe most of the code for that is in UTDeployable Vehicle, if that helps.

WooHoo! If you only added an orb spawner at the middle (non-countdown) node I'd be satisfied.

Yup, I'll have a look.

There's still more than twice as many war maps than Epic released with Titan. People will not be playing for 48 hours straight. Two map packs means two downloads instead of just one. People looking for the map pack are looking for one download but it will turn many of them off if it is too big. You want people to preload the maps so you don't get half the people still downloading when the map is finished. We should have had the map pack available by now.

Hellbender beam power display: It looks like we can not display the weapon power bar anymore because Epic got rid of the vehicle health diagram (the outline of the vehicle shape) for most vehicles to make room for the Titan display.

the vehicle health diagram is still there? I was just playing today and noticed the DarkWalker has the beam indicator also. Its odd though: I tried subclassing the stock bender which has the vehicle health diagram, I made no changes other than calling it hellbenderX, and the vehicle health diagram would not show up... I dont get it. I do now get why the weapon ammo "charge indictor" widget doesnt work with the ONSHellbender and it is because of the titan display.... there must be a way around it though...

I dont know what to say about the maps.... maybe just stick with the new ones on Saturday and tell people to post what they want added on Sunday. I think its fine to have just links to the separate maps since I'm one of the ones who doesnt like downloading the huge mappacks that usually are corrupt the first download and take a couple tries.

I may be totally off on this idea but with whatever is effecting the charge indicator couldnt we just subclass whatever the offending script is with a modded script from src 1.3? Titan doesnt work with ONS 2 anyways so we might as well change it back. I think it is in the UTPlayerReplicationInfo and UTHeroPRI that is messing it up.

or maybe subclassing UTVehicle from the 1.3 scripts would work too. This was added to src 1.4 which I'm assuming is the work around for the titan crap:

[var TextureCoordinates ChargeBarCoords;            //the charge bar as a whole
var TextureCoordinates ChargeBarEndCapCoords;    //the charge bar top endcap
var float ChargeBarPosX;     //offset relative to the upper left of the vehicle hud bar
var float ChargeBarPosY;
var float ChargeBarWidth;
var float ChargeBarHeight;]
 

I just tried messing with some of that but got nothing still. The best example I can find to match the Hellbender situation is the Levi and it only overrides ChargeBarPosX and ChargeBarPosY. I also tested whether our bender is calling the DrawBarGraph method. It is being called so why it is not showing up in the HUD is a complete mystery to me. I suspect there's some override in native code that I don't have access to.

You cannot subclass old code because the old code is not running anymore.

I also discovered that there's a ton of pretty useless code in the ONS hellbender... what is all this crap about locking the vehicle? If you don't know I'm getting rid of it.

That's probably our best hint that Epic has introduced a major hack to hide health diagrams for certain vehicles to make room for the Titan bar.

When I cut out all the vehicle locking crap there's not much left in our Bender subclass that we can't tweak in a stock bender at runtime but it only takes one critical component to screw us over... and I suspect that component may be the Gun class for Seat[1].

(The ps3 version at least) of that vehicle is derived from captain snarfs hellbender deluxe, pressing X allowed you to lock it before you exit, stopping bots from stealing it even if those bots or players are of the same team, locking it before you exited it meant only you could enter it again,

check out post #48 of this thread:  utforums.epicgames.com/showthread.php

the src is incuded in the dl..

Yes! That's what I needed!

I would never have had the patience to figure that shit out. Thanks Sanch3z for fishing up that solution and thanks Xyx for figuring out how to work around Epic's fail.

So the plan is to have each individual map as a separate link along with a map pack split up into two downloads. This way for people who dont have any of the maps will have the chance to grab them all at once using our two map packs . And for others who may have some but not the rest of the maps can download them individually through the links that we provide.

Harmerty is making the pack now and when it is ready I will update this post with it and hopefully Sanch3z will add it to the epic post shortly to follow. Thanks to everyone who helped make this possible and we will see you Saturday!!!!!

So's had an issue with Maelstrom and is making another version. He said it will be ready in an hour or two.

here is the new Maelstrom: www.clan-bge.com/Downloads/WAR-Maelstroml.zip

Thx sanch3z. Im updating the post and harm is updating the pack as we speak

Map pack will be available within the hour......stanby grasshoppers

RISE AND SHINE BITCHES!!!!!!!! Time to get dis shit poppin!!!!!! Who wants to die first???

hey, some of us stayed up late drinking last night.... will be in once the caffeine hits...

lol theres no rush. take ur time daniel son. Mr. Miyagi will be waiting

Hey dudes, I know it's hella late lol, but I just wanted to say that this was a wicked map party / weekend in general. I finally got registered up here, it's good to see that the website is back online :). So anyways, thank you to all that contributed to this map party, and an awesome weekend! PEAce bros